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An account name is not a password, it is not private information. I don't care for keeping it hidden much.
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If a cracker knows yours account name, he is halfway to using your account. Now it's just a matter of brute-forcing your password, and while difficult, it's not exactly impossible.
However, if he does not know the account name, then "Security thru Obscurity" applies and you're likely safe from having your account compromised, because then he's going to attempting to brute-force some other KNOWN account's password.
I opened it the other day, just to test, didn't actually update anything with it.
It looks nice. Too big, bulky and slow for my taste and with a lot of features I'd never use so I'm sticking to JWU.
However, please don't put any files (I'm referring to the .version.xml) in addon folders that have a .svn folder. And even more important, don't update those addons!
Don't know if it does that since I didn't try, but if I tried and it updated those addons (and I hadn't made a backup like one always should do before trying a new updater) I would've been super pissed :P
Just ignore folders with .svn folders inside. (or .git folders)
Most updaters do. (If not all, once you've implemented this :))
Hmm. NetherPanel does not delete your .svn folders, but it does update addons that are in an SVN repo - basically, yes, you would've lost your local changes, and yes, I should implement this ASAP. Thanks for the heads up.
As for bulky & slow, the download is far larger than it ought to be because of my packager's craptastic dependency management (adding more libs than NP really uses). This will be fixed. The program loads in about 2-3 seconds here, I suppose I could cut down on that time if I looked into it, which I probably will. I'm all for quick responding applications.
I've just added the option of ignoring addon management for addons that are in SCM repositories (including SVN, GIT or CVS).
That way people can turn the feature off if they just put addons in a repository to keep track of their addon configurations and share it between PCs (which I used to do).
Nice. It no longer puts extra files in my SVNed folders :)
Just FYI: It takes about 13 seconds to start up on my computer from clicking the link until the "main menu" pops up. (Not including the download for the new version. I let it load once first, then closed it before I actually clocked the start up.)
I just released a new version of NetherPanel. Just use your normal way of launching NetherPanel and it will automatically be updated (Either click and open this link or rightclick it and download the link to your pc, eg desktop, so that you can launch NetherPanel by clicking that).
Relevant changes are:
Support for proxy servers. HTTP and SOCKS servers are supported, proxy authenication is also supported but not tested; let me know if you use this whether it works (it ought to).
Uninstalling addons is now previewed along with your installing and upgrading addons.
NetherPanel now automatically fixes dependencies each time you load the addon list to make sure you aren't missing any libraries.
NetherPanel can now work with embedded or externalized Libraries for your Ace Addons; togglable in the configuration screen.
A feature has been added that lets you mark all unused addons for removal. Addons are considdered unused when they are not marked as required by you (their second checkbox is not selected in the addon manager) AND they are not dependencies of any required addons. This helps cleaning up libraries that are no longer needed.
The toolbar in the addon manager has been improved; this should make it a bit more intuitive for many.
NetherPanel is now 4M large, instead of 12.5M in the previous version. Mostly due to a cleanup of Java libraries that were included but not really used.. ;x
For those that care about the startup time, you could reduce it to 3 seconds by downloading the NetherPanel jar file and starting that one instead of relying on Java's WebStart technology. That way, though, you won't have the auto-updates provided by webstart; it won't check for a newer version (which introduces the slightly longer startup time).
If you just double-click the JAR file, the -Xmx512m option isn't applied and as a result NetherPanel might run out of memory while loading the addon list. That's because Java doesn't allocate enough memory to NetherPanel by default. This option is applied automatically when using WebStart, which is another reason why you should use that method instead. Alternatively, you could make a script file that contains that command and run that script instead of the JAR file or the JNLP file.
looks really nice :)
The only thing i noticed is the encoding, for me german equivalents to "ae" "oe" " ue" show as "?" like in this forum .
Dont know if you can fix it or if its my own problem, but i couldnt connect to http://netherpanel.lyndir.com/trac/wiki/NetherGuide for 4 hours
You're talking about the german language option in NetherPanel, right? Hmm, maybe I'm not using the correct encoding for them. I'll make sure to convert it to UTF-8 and let me know whether the next time NetherPanel downloads an update anything has changed for you, could you?
Edit: The language files are somewhat out of date because of excessive changes in NetherPanel as of late. Because of this several things will appear in English even when you have another language selected. I would need somebody willing to have a look through the german language files to update them -- seeing as I don't speak it myself ;x
You might add norganna.org as additional source for auctioneer&gatherer. Many people use this non-ace-addons as well ;) zip.norganna.org updates from their svn evry few hours, and for the changelog maybe you could use the svn-log option.
In the addon-tab, maybe add a filter to only list installed addons in addition to "All" and "updated"
Nice to have would be a list of addons that use a specific library/addon.
"show me all addons that include Threat-2.0" for example
When you show changelogs, maybe you should add the changelogs for updated libraries as well.
Omen changelog includes thret-2.0-changelog
And i have some errors, but it did work despite of them.
Your suggestions are interesting. I will remember them for when I make the addon browser a bit more advanced.
As for the auctioneer addons, soon NetherPanel will provide modular support for different addon providers. Currently there is the Ace addon provider and the UniAdmin addon provider. Addon providers will be easy to write and provide pluggable support for arbitrary addon websites.
They will be written in either Java or Python in collaboration with WUU.
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Curse PremiumSeriously though - I hope this can replace WAU. PM me your email, and I'll give you the source if you want to duplicate its functionality.
This program needs polishing still, which is only possible though user feedback - so keep em coming ;)
I'd love to hear anything you people thing is wrong with it or could possibly be added to it.
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If a cracker knows yours account name, he is halfway to using your account. Now it's just a matter of brute-forcing your password, and while difficult, it's not exactly impossible.
However, if he does not know the account name, then "Security thru Obscurity" applies and you're likely safe from having your account compromised, because then he's going to attempting to brute-force some other KNOWN account's password.
Trust me on this... seriously...
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It looks nice. Too big, bulky and slow for my taste and with a lot of features I'd never use so I'm sticking to JWU.
However, please don't put any files (I'm referring to the .version.xml) in addon folders that have a .svn folder. And even more important, don't update those addons!
Don't know if it does that since I didn't try, but if I tried and it updated those addons (and I hadn't made a backup like one always should do before trying a new updater) I would've been super pissed :P
Just ignore folders with .svn folders inside. (or .git folders)
Most updaters do. (If not all, once you've implemented this :))
As for bulky & slow, the download is far larger than it ought to be because of my packager's craptastic dependency management (adding more libs than NP really uses). This will be fixed. The program loads in about 2-3 seconds here, I suppose I could cut down on that time if I looked into it, which I probably will. I'm all for quick responding applications.
Input appreciated,
~lhun
That way people can turn the feature off if they just put addons in a repository to keep track of their addon configurations and share it between PCs (which I used to do).
NP updated to 1.91
Just FYI: It takes about 13 seconds to start up on my computer from clicking the link until the "main menu" pops up. (Not including the download for the new version. I let it load once first, then closed it before I actually clocked the start up.)
Relevant changes are:
Get NetherPanel.jar
Note: You should start this jar file like this:
If you just double-click the JAR file, the -Xmx512m option isn't applied and as a result NetherPanel might run out of memory while loading the addon list. That's because Java doesn't allocate enough memory to NetherPanel by default. This option is applied automatically when using WebStart, which is another reason why you should use that method instead. Alternatively, you could make a script file that contains that command and run that script instead of the JAR file or the JNLP file.
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Curse PremiumThe only thing i noticed is the encoding, for me german equivalents to "ae" "oe" " ue" show as "?" like in this forum .
Dont know if you can fix it or if its my own problem, but i couldnt connect to http://netherpanel.lyndir.com/trac/wiki/NetherGuide for 4 hours
About the encoding, maybe you don't have the UTF-8 character set installed on your computer.
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Curse PremiumEdit: The language files are somewhat out of date because of excessive changes in NetherPanel as of late. Because of this several things will appear in English even when you have another language selected. I would need somebody willing to have a look through the german language files to update them -- seeing as I don't speak it myself ;x
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Curse PremiumIn the addon-tab, maybe add a filter to only list installed addons in addition to "All" and "updated"
Nice to have would be a list of addons that use a specific library/addon.
"show me all addons that include Threat-2.0" for example
When you show changelogs, maybe you should add the changelogs for updated libraries as well.
Omen changelog includes thret-2.0-changelog
And i have some errors, but it did work despite of them.
Your suggestions are interesting. I will remember them for when I make the addon browser a bit more advanced.
As for the auctioneer addons, soon NetherPanel will provide modular support for different addon providers. Currently there is the Ace addon provider and the UniAdmin addon provider. Addon providers will be easy to write and provide pluggable support for arbitrary addon websites.
They will be written in either Java or Python in collaboration with WUU.