Just relax people. We are freeloaders here. And enough time was given for us to prepare, if you didn't have any back-up plans, then it's your fault not theirs.
Secondly, if you started using AddOns by using an updater, then delete your AddOns. Start from scratch, download manually. Majority of us here started that way, there were no updaters back then (well except for CosmosUI).
You choose, DO something about it and stop what you're doing right now, or DONT DO anything at all, so when patch comes out, you'll be left in the dark?
What IF, WoWAce shuts down for financial reasons? You're still going to blame them? Well, in my PoV, the bottomline for all these was financial reasons, we should be thankful Kaelten tried something to keep the WoWAce Community alive.
While I appreciate the support Laibcoms, what he's referring to is a deficiency in our client. Right now we don't have a release date planned for a PPC version. While its not strictly ruled out we don't have support for it at the time.
I am not sure what i am doing wrong. I have installed the curse client and i did install a few addons hosted by curse. But the only addon the client gives me is 'Curse Profiler 2.0' which i am sure as hell, i DON'T HAVE.
I have double checked the wow install directory, but it seems he doesn't even attempt to check my 80+ addons.
This is to DAMM ANNOYING. Before it was a single button press and things worked. Now it looks like i will need to redesign my UI with WOLTK with an updater / website that works.
I am not sure what i am doing wrong. I have installed the curse client and i did install a few addons hosted by curse. But the only addon the client gives me is 'Curse Profiler 2.0' which i am sure as hell, i DON'T HAVE.
I have double checked the wow install directory, but it seems he doesn't even attempt to check my 80+ addons.
This is to DAMM ANNOYING. Before it was a single button press and things worked. Now it looks like i will need to redesign my UI with WOLTK with an updater / website that works.
We're going on a week now since the changeover, and yet I'm still seeing posts from people shouting that the free client is broken and has thereby ruined their lives so they're going to pack up their toys and go elsewhere.
Maybe I'm not using the client correctly? It finds my add ons, but when i highlight all or one of them and check for updates it doesn't do anything. Also I have 5 Addons that are highlighted in red. I can choose all the addons and click update and it seems to redownload them all. Only problem is the versions seem to be out of date, since wau finds many of them need updates. Am I doing something wrong?
I am not sure what i should see. I have attached a screenshot of my addon folder and the curse client. Somehow i belief that the addons showing up in the addon dir should be present in the curse client.
I am not sure what i should see. I have attached a screenshot of my addon folder and the curse client. Somehow i belief that the addons showing up in the addon dir should be present in the curse client.
I have that too, I have to go to the mod page and tell it to use CC to d/l it once , then it shows on the list, but rarely does it show one needs to be updated...and even if I click on the update on the CC it still shows it the mod needs to be updated. ( and yes I do click refresh)
I am not sure what i should see. I have attached a screenshot of my addon folder and the curse client. Somehow i belief that the addons showing up in the addon dir should be present in the curse client.
I thought that too... but according to Kolie the client does not, and will never, show you what's in your addons folder. It only shows you what addons the client is managing. As a consequence of this decision, even if you delete an addon from your addons folder, the client won't know it's been deleted, and will reinstall it if there's ever an update beyond the last version it downloaded. The only way to actually delete an addon is to right-click it in the client, click "uninstall", and then go delete it from your addons folder... because the client will only remove the files, and leave the empty folder.
I thought that too... but according to Kolie the client does not, and will never, show you what's in your addons folder. It only shows you what addons the client is managing. As a consequence of this decision, even if you delete an addon from your addons folder, the client won't know it's been deleted, and will reinstall it if there's ever an update beyond the last version it downloaded. The only way to actually delete an addon is to right-click it in the client, click "uninstall", and then go delete it from your addons folder... because the client will only remove the files, and leave the empty folder.
personally, I do not care for that.If it says it's going to delete it...why not the whole dang thing??
personally, I do not care for that.If it says it's going to delete it...why not the whole dang thing??
I'm unsure about under Windows, but I remember in Linux having to set/check for different permissions to handle folders/directories correctly. This was about 12 years ago, though, so...:D
I'm unsure about under Windows, but I remember in Linux having to set/check for different permissions to handle folders/directories correctly. This was about 12 years ago, though, so...:D
Given that no other updater I've used has ever had trouble completely removing addons uninstalled through their interface, and that the Client can create folders just fine, I doubt it is a permissions issue.
Personally I find the other issue more annoying; that it is completely oblivious to changes in the physical contents of the addon folder that weren't initiated from itself.
I still have no idea why change something that's not broken. The new CF client can only be described as rubbish.
I say that with sadness really since one of the main reasons I've moved fully to Ace2 was how easy it was to make sure I'm up-to-date without any issues all the time. Too bad that privilege is now gone :)
Hoping for a new/better improved client soon. Until then, I'm updating manually.
Given that no other updater I've used has ever had trouble completely removing addons uninstalled through their interface, and that the Client can create folders just fine, I doubt it is a permissions issue.
Personally I find the other issue more annoying; that it is completely oblivious to changes in the physical contents of the addon folder that weren't initiated from itself.
I'm thinking the name of the program itself gives a huge hint: Curse _Client_
I am used to things like 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. The wowace community had established something very similar. Easy to use, nearly zero administration and saving the users a lot of trouble, making patch days a lot less painful. Any new program / update cycle will get compared with the old-system and if it does not bring a similar usabilty, will have a hard time to gain acceptance, may get flamed for it.
I would have expected that the client does scan the available addons and if it meets an directory name matching one it knows from the site or wowace, ask if it is the addon and if it should be updated, but that never happend so far. Also the behaviour described by phanx is a bit odd. But that is beta. I have seen a link to Wuu in the other forum and at the moment it does bring what i described above and as such i will prefer to use it over the current available client. *gliding off topic now*
I'm not a programmer. Most of this technical information goes straight over my head. I'm not even sure what SVN means or what a library does exactly, only that I need certain ones to run certain mods.
All I know is that with the WAU, I had a nice, efficient, streamlined program that let me update all my mods quickly and to the most recent content, presented to me in an easy-to-intuit interface.
I've tried the Curse updater and it's counterintuitive, clunky, irritating, and it broke half my mods. It does annoying things without my knowledge and takes up memory with stuff I don't want. Fortunately I made backups of all my folders before I did this so I was able to revert back to my original UI.
Why on earth is this new updater considered to be a better option than the old WAU? I'm just really confused here. It doesn't work well at all, and the WAU had more and better features involved. Why not just use the WAU interface and abilities and call it the new Curse updater? If paying for things is the only option to get a nice product, I'll pay twice the amount what you guys want me to pay for that crappy Curse updater if it means I can have a program that worked like the WAU did. It's not a question of "wah wah wah I want this to be free," because I'm willing to pay. I just want to pay for something that's worth paying for, and right now this Curse updater is definitely not that thing.
Well, I can't say I'm in love with the current client too, but you have to understand, it is not made to be better, it is made to be the only one. Bandwidth costs money, curse gives the money, curse supplies the updater, updater will get payed version soon, etc. It is normal, was expected earlier even
What's going on here sounds for me like a horrible mistake in doing the right steps at the right time.
I'm a software author (as profession) and I imagine the following situation.
A client of mine has problems with the current SW - to much bandwith usage let's say.
So what do I do next?
I search for a different approach.
As you did with Curse.
And what's up next?
Yes remove (disable) the current working software and AFTER it try to get the things going with the new "partner"?
My Clients would kill me for such a thing.
The only logical solution is:
a.) Get the things working with the new system
--get out from beta to a real working release
b.) Remove the (problematic) working version
B come AFTER A.
You did it reverse - remove WAU support - at a time where the new client is in a very bad beta state - and even the needed things are not fully implemented.
So from my point of view:
Please bring back up WAU - fix the curse problems - AFTER IT - remove WAU again.
We are heading to a big WoW patch propably next week.
And here we are with a horrible beta client.
I decided to switch almost every addon to Ace - because the idea is great and the updater too.
Now I'm lost...
So from my point of view:
Please bring back up WAU - fix the curse problems - AFTER IT - remove WAU again.
We are heading to a big WoW patch propably next week.
And here we are with a horrible beta client.
I decided to switch almost every addon to Ace - because the idea is great and the updater too.
Now I'm lost...
It's too late.
The old SVN has been frozen and addons are being imported into an entirely new repository system. Authors are already checking in changes to their addons via this new system, so there's no longer any way to roll back.
Yes, the Curse Client is not even a viable replacement for WAU yet, let alone a poor one. No, they can't go back to letting you use WAU at this point.
We're just going to have to suck it up.
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Secondly, if you started using AddOns by using an updater, then delete your AddOns. Start from scratch, download manually. Majority of us here started that way, there were no updaters back then (well except for CosmosUI).
You choose, DO something about it and stop what you're doing right now, or DONT DO anything at all, so when patch comes out, you'll be left in the dark?
What IF, WoWAce shuts down for financial reasons? You're still going to blame them? Well, in my PoV, the bottomline for all these was financial reasons, we should be thankful Kaelten tried something to keep the WoWAce Community alive.
I have double checked the wow install directory, but it seems he doesn't even attempt to check my 80+ addons.
This is to DAMM ANNOYING. Before it was a single button press and things worked. Now it looks like i will need to redesign my UI with WOLTK with an updater / website that works.
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Project AuthorWe're going on a week now since the changeover, and yet I'm still seeing posts from people shouting that the free client is broken and has thereby ruined their lives so they're going to pack up their toys and go elsewhere.
Yay for entitlement!
I have that too, I have to go to the mod page and tell it to use CC to d/l it once , then it shows on the list, but rarely does it show one needs to be updated...and even if I click on the update on the CC it still shows it the mod needs to be updated. ( and yes I do click refresh)
I thought that too... but according to Kolie the client does not, and will never, show you what's in your addons folder. It only shows you what addons the client is managing. As a consequence of this decision, even if you delete an addon from your addons folder, the client won't know it's been deleted, and will reinstall it if there's ever an update beyond the last version it downloaded. The only way to actually delete an addon is to right-click it in the client, click "uninstall", and then go delete it from your addons folder... because the client will only remove the files, and leave the empty folder.
personally, I do not care for that.If it says it's going to delete it...why not the whole dang thing??
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Project AuthorI'm unsure about under Windows, but I remember in Linux having to set/check for different permissions to handle folders/directories correctly. This was about 12 years ago, though, so...:D
Given that no other updater I've used has ever had trouble completely removing addons uninstalled through their interface, and that the Client can create folders just fine, I doubt it is a permissions issue.
Personally I find the other issue more annoying; that it is completely oblivious to changes in the physical contents of the addon folder that weren't initiated from itself.
I say that with sadness really since one of the main reasons I've moved fully to Ace2 was how easy it was to make sure I'm up-to-date without any issues all the time. Too bad that privilege is now gone :)
Hoping for a new/better improved client soon. Until then, I'm updating manually.
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Project AuthorI'm thinking the name of the program itself gives a huge hint: Curse _Client_
Curse Updater sounds much nicer.
Cursed client
I am used to things like 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. The wowace community had established something very similar. Easy to use, nearly zero administration and saving the users a lot of trouble, making patch days a lot less painful. Any new program / update cycle will get compared with the old-system and if it does not bring a similar usabilty, will have a hard time to gain acceptance, may get flamed for it.
I would have expected that the client does scan the available addons and if it meets an directory name matching one it knows from the site or wowace, ask if it is the addon and if it should be updated, but that never happend so far. Also the behaviour described by phanx is a bit odd. But that is beta. I have seen a link to Wuu in the other forum and at the moment it does bring what i described above and as such i will prefer to use it over the current available client. *gliding off topic now*
All I know is that with the WAU, I had a nice, efficient, streamlined program that let me update all my mods quickly and to the most recent content, presented to me in an easy-to-intuit interface.
I've tried the Curse updater and it's counterintuitive, clunky, irritating, and it broke half my mods. It does annoying things without my knowledge and takes up memory with stuff I don't want. Fortunately I made backups of all my folders before I did this so I was able to revert back to my original UI.
Why on earth is this new updater considered to be a better option than the old WAU? I'm just really confused here. It doesn't work well at all, and the WAU had more and better features involved. Why not just use the WAU interface and abilities and call it the new Curse updater? If paying for things is the only option to get a nice product, I'll pay twice the amount what you guys want me to pay for that crappy Curse updater if it means I can have a program that worked like the WAU did. It's not a question of "wah wah wah I want this to be free," because I'm willing to pay. I just want to pay for something that's worth paying for, and right now this Curse updater is definitely not that thing.
I'm a software author (as profession) and I imagine the following situation.
A client of mine has problems with the current SW - to much bandwith usage let's say.
So what do I do next?
I search for a different approach.
As you did with Curse.
And what's up next?
Yes remove (disable) the current working software and AFTER it try to get the things going with the new "partner"?
My Clients would kill me for such a thing.
The only logical solution is:
a.) Get the things working with the new system
--get out from beta to a real working release
b.) Remove the (problematic) working version
B come AFTER A.
You did it reverse - remove WAU support - at a time where the new client is in a very bad beta state - and even the needed things are not fully implemented.
So from my point of view:
Please bring back up WAU - fix the curse problems - AFTER IT - remove WAU again.
We are heading to a big WoW patch propably next week.
And here we are with a horrible beta client.
I decided to switch almost every addon to Ace - because the idea is great and the updater too.
Now I'm lost...
It's too late.
The old SVN has been frozen and addons are being imported into an entirely new repository system. Authors are already checking in changes to their addons via this new system, so there's no longer any way to roll back.
Yes, the Curse Client is not even a viable replacement for WAU yet, let alone a poor one. No, they can't go back to letting you use WAU at this point.
We're just going to have to suck it up.