Obviously, but I see absolutely no incentive for major hosting sites like WoWI or Curse to support something like this, which leaves third-party sites like those mentioned in the post I was replying to as options for places addons could be hosted to support a system like the one proposed... although apparently I missed this entire page of posts and thought I was replying to the last post in the thread when I was actually replying to the last post on the previous page.
Though I have noticed some discrepancies between Curse and WoWUI for the same addon. Not always, but sometimes the versions are not the same, or are versioned differently. It's rare, but does cause confusion.
Though Phanx I think you were confused. I wasn't talking about a NEW site. I was more talking about making either Curse, or WoWUI the established source of truth, and eliminate the other.
One solution would be to have all UI sites make it possible to optionally syndicate addon updates between them. Many authors seems to primarily update their addon(s) on one site (using repos) and then manually update on the other sites.
In my opinion this is not optimal for either authors or users. The question is if the site owners would like this idea. Probably not...
Though Phanx I think you were confused. I wasn't talking about a NEW site. I was more talking about making either Curse, or WoWUI the established source of truth, and eliminate the other.
No, I wasn't confused. I was replying to this post:
You're missing one very important thing. Bandwidth/hosting is not free. If you want to provide free hosting for any addon and their xml file, you'll have a very popular updater. Otherwise you'll have a hard time convincing people that they should make it easy for other people to drive up their hosting bills with no compensation.
If the service allowed linking to google code, bitbucket, github etc., then the download sites like curse don't get hit at all. If people take advantage of using these other larger free services, this common site could simply link to those download urls and voila, the service is free, common and up to date.
I have a quick question. For programs like WoWMatrix to succeed, addons need to be spread hither and yon between addon sites. What goes into the thought process in placing an addon on one site and not another?
Clearly it's the free cookies. Curse has Caramel ones. Wowinterface Chocolate ones.
Why is there not just one site for all WoW addons? Wouldn't that solve the problem that WowMatrix is exploiting?
Ok now you're scaring me.
Different sites offer different stuff for the authors. Different interfaces . They even look different. It's up to the authors which one to use. Among other things it provides redundancy . If you can't access one site you can go to the other. Works well for the addon users as each site has a different set of features.
IMHO if you had one site you'ld get authors that would refuse to update there. Wheter it's because an admin they don't like or the process to update their addons is too hard .... they will choose to do so. And they would put the addons up on their own site circumventing your whole "one site for all" idea.
That guy parses all the major addon site's. RSS feeds. From this he gets links to all sites an addon is found on . Think you can even RSS that page too....
EDIT : He parses the RSS not the pages themselves (thanks Seerah)
Just to be clear, fin doesn't parse the addon sites (that would be just like wowmatrix scraping us). He's parsing the rss feeds themselves. Subtle difference, but a difference non-the-less. :)
Just to be clear, fin doesn't parse the addon sites (that would be just like wowmatrix scraping us). He's parsing the rss feeds themselves. Subtle difference, but a difference non-the-less. :)
Secondly, those aren't free either. *Someone* has to pay for them. And if they realize they're being abused, they'll put a stop to it.
(sheesh... kids these days don't have any idea about money)
First off, was on the first page of the forums, don't think it was "necro bumped", secondly, I'm not a kid (unless you consider late 30's and the CTO for a web company a kid), just a fan of the community. I have talked to numerous sites like BitBucket, who don't have a problem as long as they are used for the development, not just for pulling the files down, after all, it IS what they developed the service for.
My point is there simply has to be a better way to handle this. I think some people might just be getting too greedy and in turn are going to bite the hand that feeds them, but thats just my 2 cents.
In addition to the hosting bill issue, you'll have a hard time me (and likely others) that I should spend more time posting each new version to yet another location just to save other people from the unspeakable horror of spending 30 seconds downloading my addon from an established addon release site.
Even better, why not write a submitter for addons? Maybe it submits to all the popular sites? One app for you to submit to all the fancy addon sites. This way any site can create their own downloader and all addons could be placed there. Saving the developer time and getting his product out to the masses?
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Though Phanx I think you were confused. I wasn't talking about a NEW site. I was more talking about making either Curse, or WoWUI the established source of truth, and eliminate the other.
In my opinion this is not optimal for either authors or users. The question is if the site owners would like this idea. Probably not...
No, I wasn't confused. I was replying to this post:
Clearly it's the free cookies. Curse has Caramel ones. Wowinterface Chocolate ones.
Ok now you're scaring me.
Different sites offer different stuff for the authors. Different interfaces . They even look different. It's up to the authors which one to use. Among other things it provides redundancy . If you can't access one site you can go to the other. Works well for the addon users as each site has a different set of features.
IMHO if you had one site you'ld get authors that would refuse to update there. Wheter it's because an admin they don't like or the process to update their addons is too hard .... they will choose to do so. And they would put the addons up on their own site circumventing your whole "one site for all" idea.
Here's an idea : Take a look at this site : http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods/
That guy parses all the major addon site's. RSS feeds. From this he gets links to all sites an addon is found on . Think you can even RSS that page too....
EDIT : He parses the RSS not the pages themselves (thanks Seerah)
That's...actually... REALLY handy.
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First off, was on the first page of the forums, don't think it was "necro bumped", secondly, I'm not a kid (unless you consider late 30's and the CTO for a web company a kid), just a fan of the community. I have talked to numerous sites like BitBucket, who don't have a problem as long as they are used for the development, not just for pulling the files down, after all, it IS what they developed the service for.
My point is there simply has to be a better way to handle this. I think some people might just be getting too greedy and in turn are going to bite the hand that feeds them, but thats just my 2 cents.
Even better, why not write a submitter for addons? Maybe it submits to all the popular sites? One app for you to submit to all the fancy addon sites. This way any site can create their own downloader and all addons could be placed there. Saving the developer time and getting his product out to the masses?