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    posted a message on Omen - Bug Reports and Suggestions
    Quote from dyseus »

    I think your having an issue with something else. We ran BT and Hyjal this last week, and no one in our raid complained of raid wide slow downs. There definitely are some frame rate differences this patch, but I ran over 30 fps at all times, even during hyjal ae, and our guild all runs omen, with default values.
    Let me recap your issue real quick. You started using Omen, after a patch, and are sure its omen, not the patch that is causing your fps issues?


    Do you even bother to read? Let me quote what i previously stated.

    Quote from deadmage »

    Not really sure if Omen is the cause. But we started using Omen and i mean everyone in our raid last nite for the first time. Threat values etc seemed fine or close enough until the new devastate/sunder gets set exact and a few other new things. The only problem all of us experianced was a fps hit. For some it wasn't too bad. For me i dropped down to single digit framerate. I know other addons were causing this a few days back. For example Bongos2 was killing my framerate. Did update prior to raid. Just want to make sure it isn't a Omen thing or if it is then fix it please.

    My question right now is how often should Omen be getting threat updates. It was set for 0.05 seconds by default. Some in our raid increased the time to 0.5 and this seemed to help a bit with our fps issues. Should everyone in the raid set it to 0.5 second and or is there an optimal setting that people have figured out for raid use?

    BTW yes everyone in the riad was using the latest version of Omen and none were using KTM. We did check before we started and had people update and or disable ktm.

    Also
    Quote from deadmage »

    I don't use a dual core cpu. But ty for feedback. I've read a bit of Slouken's posts. They're looking into fixing/changing a few problems. But further reading modders show that most of the problems they found were because they needed to update thier code. The authors that did do this have fixed a lot of thier issues. I'm more of the opinion with blizz in that you need to fix/look into the coding and fix it. I'm not saying it's all Omens fault. I'd guess every single addons i have contributes to the fps loss. Adding the loss up cumulatively causes a huge fps loss which frankly is unacceptable. I can't play at 8fps while i MT stuff in a 25 man raid. To say it prolly isn't Omen is like ignoring the issue. The GUI code needs to be updated like everyone else imo or at least looked at real good.


    Now where in those 2 quotes does it say i'm putting all the blame on OMEN? No where does it say that. It's all my addons combined. Each need to be looked at. The GUI for OMEN needs to be looked at. Threat 1.0 is probably fine. Except for stuff that needs updating ie new talents reducing and increasing threat etc. As for version updates we were updated to within 4 hours of each other. Learn to freaking read. Hurray for your 30fps. I got an old single core cpu. I can't get framerates like that if everything isn't working perfectly. Which

    Another question is why when i'm not in a party or killing anything i'm getting data sent from other guildies via guild chat channel. Can we please reduce the spam and keep OMEN in it's propper channel.

    Liking this OMEN vs KTM very much so far. GUI looks cool and can be configured. Has quite a few options. Yet it wasn't overly done. I think it strikes a nice balance of too little vs too much. Keep up the great work.

    Add a disable check box "there's a new version blah blah please.
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    posted a message on Omen - Bug Reports and Suggestions
    Quote from denalian »

    Is there a way to get rid of this? ><

    "New version available (Playername) rXXXXX"

    I think it looked something like that (on the bottom of the frame). Can't remember though, just updated it :P


    No kidding, i'd love to know the answer to that one.

    Again if anyone knows what a good setting is for tps update freq to stop this major lag please post what works best for you. BTW can someone please set the default tps update freq to whatever this setting should be. Having it default of 0.05 seconds is crazy.
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    posted a message on Omen - Bug Reports and Suggestions
    Quote from OttoDeFe »

    There's been a bit of debate about the frame rate hits in 2.3 - read some of the debate on the forums at the Blizz site. It seems the code to spread the processing load across both cores of a dual core processor seems to hinder FPS, not help. A couple people said the set WoW to only use one core and their fps went up. The blues said to examine your addons for anything using pre-patch code, but several were of the opinion that wasn't the issue. I know I've taken a small FPS hit.

    Bottom line, I don't think it's prolly Omen.


    I don't use a dual core cpu. But ty for feedback. I've read a bit of Slouken's posts. They're looking into fixing/changing a few problems. But further reading modders show that most of the problems they found were because they needed to update thier code. The authors that did do this have fixed a lot of thier issues. I'm more of the opinion with blizz in that you need to fix/look into the coding and fix it. I'm not saying it's all Omens fault. I'd guess every single addons i have contributes to the fps loss. Adding the loss up cumulatively causes a huge fps loss which frankly is unacceptable. I can't play at 8fps while i MT stuff in a 25 man raid. To say it prolly isn't Omen is like ignoring the issue. The GUI code needs to be updated like everyone else imo or at least looked at real good.
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    posted a message on Omen and KTM - will they run together?
    We found that if most people ran KTM and 1 person ran Omen is caused threat meter to go bonkers. I had to delete threat1.0 that comes with Pitbull before each raid. If i didn't threat was wacked. Put me in the category of a Luddite if you will. I like the look and the way Omen works. We've made the switch to Omen. If we find Omen is the cause of our fps issues we'll switch back to KTM if Kenco ever updates his damn mod. But calling your guildies a bunch of Morons shows your character. I need say no more.
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    posted a message on Omen - Bug Reports and Suggestions
    Not really sure if Omen is the cause. But we started using Omen and i mean everyone in our raid last nite for the first time. Threat values etc seemed fine or close enough until the new devastate/sunder gets set exact and a few other new things. The only problem all of us experianced was a fps hit. For some it wasn't too bad. For me i dropped down to single digit framerate. I know other addons were causing this a few days back. For example Bongos2 was killing my framerate. Did update prior to raid. Just want to make sure it isn't a Omen thing or if it is then fix it please.

    My question right now is how often should Omen be getting threat updates. It was set for 0.05 seconds by default. Some in our raid increased the time to 0.5 and this seemed to help a bit with our fps issues. Should everyone in the raid set it to 0.5 second and or is there an optimal setting that people have figured out for raid use?

    BTW yes everyone in the riad was using the latest version of Omen and none were using KTM. We did check before we started and had people update and or disable ktm.
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    posted a message on PitBull 2.0
    Still awaiting for pitbull to refresh party frames. 4th request
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    posted a message on PitBull 2.0
    This is frustrating. Asked what 3 times now for party frames to be refreshed as Pitbull does NOT do this. Now debuffs are screwy as well. If i debuff it's fine. If someone else debuffs it takes my debuff off. Unexceptable when i'm tanking and need to know when demo and tc are actually on the mob. 2 huge issues for me here and they aren't being addressed. :(
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    posted a message on PitBull 2.0
    Seemed to have everything working right now except 1 thing. In raids when entering an instance party frames are gone except the ones in my class ie i play a warrior and 2 other warriors in my party show but shaman and lok won't show. I can do a /reload ui and all is good. But for some reason party frames aren't being refreshed. MT MT target etc etc etc everything else works. Hoping it's not a conflict with other addons. I don't run that many btw. Still wondering if it's an ORA2 Pitbull thing.

    Can you please just add code to refresh party frames.
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    posted a message on PitBull 2.0
    Quote from ManniAT »

    Hi,

    anything new about the "MainTank MainTankTarget" refresh I'v been asking a few days ago?

    Manfred


    ManniAT and Manfred i'm new to this whole wowace thing. Only 5 days experiance. Mt and MT targets wouldn't refresh. Also party frames wouldn't show when i was in a raid. Well i'm the MT and other MT's that were in my group would show in my party. Very strange indeed. I was also using Ora. Tried the setting in Ora to show zero MT's that worked but that would need to be refreshed every time i entered an instance etc. The fix was actually setting Pitbull to NOT show mt or assist or mt targets or assist targets. I disabled all 4 of those. I have ORA set to show MT's whatever like 10 for me. Then i could repostion the MT bars etc and it no longer needs to be refreshed. Another huge factor was i was getting errors so i decided to delete my mods and use the wowace utility for updating mods. Downloaded and installed the mods i had before and now only got a couple of erors left. Pitbull is working great now using those steps for me. Party frames in a raid are fine and MT and MT targets all fine now. I only have 1 tiny complaint or problem and that is curses do not show up at all for Player meaning me. Although a magic debuff does. I don't know if it's certain curses or if i was just blind and missed it. I have debuffs for Player set to enabled and debuff filtering is NOT checked. Not sure if any of this is correct but it is what worked for me.
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    posted a message on PitBull 2.0
    Quote from Serenus »

    I'm not sure this is possible, but if not it would be a nice suggestion.

    While raiding I'd like to have both Raid/Party active, mainly because I'm supposed to be paying attention to my group but sometimes dispell other groups as well, is it possible to remove only my group from the raid frames and have them appear as my party group and all the other raid members on raid frames?

    I hope that makes sense >.<


    yes see next post
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    posted a message on Post cool PitBull layouts here!


    A few missing things such as party member 4 and 5. Working out some patch issues which are mostly resolved except a couple left. Cast bar is between health and power. Still playing with it. I changed a couple things since i toook this 2 nites ago. Mainly raid frames looked too busy. Target of target increased size and position a bit. Have to get fubar some day. http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1677/deadtankunitframesur8.jpg for 1920x1200 image as that's what i run at. :)
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    posted a message on PitBull 2.0
    More updates the more errors i get. Here's my current list.

    9/28 18:09:47.281 Loading add-on PitBull
    9/28 18:09:47.281 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\PitBull\PitBull.toc
    9/28 18:09:47.281 ++ Loading file Interface\AddOns\PitBull\embeds.xml
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\libs\Gratuity-2.0\Gratuity-2.0.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 ++ Loading file Interface\AddOns\PitBull\modules.xml
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Aura\Aura.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\CombatIcon\CombatIcon.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\ComboPoints\ComboPoints.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\HealthBar\HealthBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\HideBlizzard\HideBlizzard.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Highlight\Highlight.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\LeaderIcon\LeaderIcon.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\PowerBar\PowerBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\MasterLooterIcon\MasterLooterIcon.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\PvPIcon\PvPIcon.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\RaidTargetIcon\RaidTargetIcon.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\RestIcon\RestIcon.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Portrait\Portrait.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\CombatText\CombatText.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\CastBar\CastBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\ExperienceBar\ExperienceBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\ReputationBar\ReputationBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Spark\Spark.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\DruidManaBar\DruidManaBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\BarFader\BarFader.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\EstimatedHeals\EstimatedHeals.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\InteractLines\InteractLines.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\CombatFader\CombatFader.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Banzai\Banzai.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\RangeCheck\RangeCheck.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\PitBull\ThreatBar\ThreatBar.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Loading add-on oRA2
    9/28 18:09:47.281 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\oRA2\oRA2.toc
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\oRA2\modules.xml
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Loading add-on KLHThreatMeter
    9/28 18:09:47.281 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\KLHThreatMeter\KLHThreatMeter.toc
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\KLHThreatMeter\Development\GlobalStringsfrFR.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Error loading Interface\AddOns\KLHThreatMeter\Development\SetDebug.lua
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Loading add-on CEnemyCastBar
    9/28 18:09:47.281 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\CEnemyCastBar\CEnemyCastBar.toc
    9/28 18:09:47.281 Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\CEnemyCastBar\
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    posted a message on pitbull 2.0 since patch some issues with updated version
    Well not a complete success after all. If i'm leader and set the MT or assist for a raid, frames come up in center of the screen and locked. If someone else is leader and they set MT and assist they come up where i want them to. Also got a bad argument power bar. But i looked at the power bars only 2 in the raid me and another warrior and both bars filled as they should have. No idea what that was unless it was power bar in the mt frame or assist frame. which i have disabled i thought.
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    posted a message on pitbull 2.0 since patch some issues with updated version
    Quote from deadmage »

    New to Pitbull and so far really loving it. Going thru the pains of setting it up. Got it set up entered a party and everything works fine. create a raid and i get nothing. no MT targets. No assist. No raid groups. Also i can't select party or raid in the configuration mode while in said raid. Party frames working fine and target, targets target, focus. focus target. It's just the raid stuff not coming up. I did set up the raid frames prior to entering a raid. I'd bet a saw buck it's something i'm not doing right.

    Loving the mod. Gotta be the best i've seen yet. Get that raid thing workin i be set.


    OK found the problem. I had some of the blizzard raid frames pulled out. Figured i'd have to just reset the frames so tried deleting the blizzard raid stuff. Didn't work. Then tried diabling all mods and enabling the blizzard raid mod. That didn't work either. Tried a few other things and no go.

    The fix for this was i found a L1 toon i had that has never pulled any blizzard frames out and took his blizzard_raidui blad blah files and copied them to wtf folder and to any and all folders that had those files. Under accounts and realm and toons etc etc. everything in the wtf folder. Quite a few actually as i have a lot of toons.

    I am now emtremely pleased. That actually fixed ORA2 and Pitbull at the same time. ora was using pitbull so i can see why they both messed up. Neither mod have i used before until a few days ago. Got every unit frame working in the place i wish it to work. Hope this helps others as i'm reading on the web other people having the same issue.

    PS might be a good idea to actually fix this on pitbulls end. ERROR i was getting is "Pitbull has been blocked from an action only available to the blizzard UI. You can disable this addon and reload the UI."
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    posted a message on pitbull 2.0 since patch some issues with updated version
    Arg imma newb ok nm figured out the hidden thing like duh.
    Posted in: Unit Frames
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